Italy recently became the fourth nation to pledge to phase out nuclear power since Japan’s Fukushima disaster. Italy accomplished this feat by a popular referendum, soon after Germany did the same in its legislature (Bundestag). Switzerland has also agreed to a phase-out and Japan itself has agreed to phase out much of its nuclear capacity in favor of renewables and natural gas.
Should California do the same? Could it do the same?
California has effectively banned new nuclear plants in the state since the 1970s due to a law requiring that there be an effective federal nuclear waste disposal facility before any new plants are built in California. And despite efforts to create a federal waste facility at Yucca Mountain, Nevada, and other places, the U.S. is still far from completing any such facility.
There has not, however, been any widespread push to phase out California’s existing nuclear plants. We have three: two in California (Diablo Canyon in San Luis Obispo County and San Onofre in San Diego County) and one in Arizona (Palo Verde) that serves California. These three plants provide about 5,000 megawatts of steady electricity to California and have never suffered any major accidents.
Five thousand megawatts is a lot of baseload power and would require enormous amounts of new wind, solar, and/or natural gas to replace these nuclear power plants.
But would we need to replace these plants? That is, if a decision were made to phase out the plants, would they need to be replaced?
No one has yet, to my knowledge, looked at this issue in detail. But the state’s grid operator, the California Independent System Operator (CAISO), has recently completed a detailed analysis for “integration requirements” to get to 33% renewables by 2020, as is now required by law since Gov. Brown signed SB 2. “Integration” refers generally to new natural-gas power plants to provide power when variable renewables, like wind power or solar power, aren’t available – because the wind doesn’t always blow and the sun doesn’t always shine.
The good news is that CAISO recently concluded, under its current set of assumptions, that California will need no new capacity to integrate the 33% renewables by 2020. CAISO examined four scenarios in its 33% renewables by 2020 analysis, some focusing on in-state renewables only, others including some out-of-state power, more wind, etc. The analysis found that only a small “load following down” capacity would be required, which could be met through curtailment of existing facilities, rather than building any new facilities.
Why such a surprising finding? A number of factors are relevant, but the primary ones are: an excess of existing natural gas generation, robust statewide energy-efficiency and demand-response programs, and a significant number of new cogeneration facilities coming online.
Not only did CAISO find no new power plants would be required to integrate the 33% renewables mandate by 2020, CAISO also found that by 2020 the state would have about 14,000 megawatts of excess power available, even after meeting the 33% renewables mandate. This is over and above the “planning reserve margin” required by state law. The planning reserve margin is 15-17% above expected normal demand for each utility. It provides a buffer in cases where demand peaks are far higher than expected – during summer heat waves, for example.
Compared to the 5,000 megawatts of nuclear power that serves California, it seems that the projected 14,144 megawatt surplus by 2020 may allow the phase-out of these plants in the coming years without harming the ability of our grid to function reliably.
It is important, however, to recognize that this CAISO report did not explicitly examine a “nuclear phase out” scenario. It would, thus, be irresponsible to conclude without further analysis by CAISO that we could immediately or painlessly phase out these nuclear plants. The responsible course of action would be for CAISO to include a nuclear phase-out scenario in a future iteration of this analysis and vet the results thoroughly with other agencies and stakeholders.
Moreover, the technical ability to serve California’s power demand without our existing nuclear power plants is not the only relevant factor. Another important factor relates to “stranded costs” of these power plants. Nuclear power plants cost billions of dollars to build, which is ultimately paid by ratepayers. Power plants must generally stay online long enough to allow revenue from power sales to pay for the investments. If they are forced offline, and contracts are broken, “stranded costs” must be paid by ratepayers. No one knows at this time what the stranded costs would be for our existing nuclear plants, but it may be a large amount.
Summing up, it seems, based on CAISO’s recent analysis, that California may indeed be able to phase out its nuclear power plants without great detriment to the state. But additional study is required, involving not only the ability to serve the electricity needs of Californians, but also the stranded costs resulting from such a phase out.
Tam Hunt is a renewable energy lawyer and policy advocate based in Santa Barbara. He owns Community Renewable Solutions LLC, which focuses on community-scale renewable energy consulting and project development.



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This is an excellent article.
Black Swans, highly improbable innovations with enormous implications, are about to provide cost-competitive renewable energy without the need for radioactive fuel.
See CHEAP GREEN and MOVING BEYOND OIL on the Aesop Institute website for a few examples.
The Introduction to that website outlines an unrecognized threat which can cause collapse of power grids for years.
Decentralized green energy must become an urgent priority.
MarkGoldes (anonymous profile)
December 10, 2011 at 9:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)
How can we possibly survive without nuclear power?...wait a minute...we survived without nuclear power for thousands of years.
billclausen (anonymous profile)
December 11, 2011 at 2:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Santa Barbarians;
Come to the aid of 'Moonbeam' !
Shut down CA. as we know it. No time like the present to ban nuclear power.
You should be just fine with the solar panels sold at Ace Hrdwre.
Plant some windmills - see if they grow in the CA sun.
JoeBtfsplk (anonymous profile)
December 11, 2011 at 2:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)
What an idiotic comment, billclausen. Did you happen to notice that for thousands of years we did not nave 7 billion people running around the planet?
SezMe (anonymous profile)
December 12, 2011 at 1:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Shut down CA. as we know it. No time like the present to ban nuclear power.
-- JoeBtfsplk
One of two things is true. You didn't read the article or you need to go down to the central library and sign up for a reading comprehension course.
Also, your "a" key is broken: "Hrdwre".
SezMe (anonymous profile)
December 12, 2011 at 1:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)
"One of two things is true. You didn't read the article or you need to go down to the central library and sign up for a reading comprehension course." -SezMe- (putting down JoeBtfsplk)
SezMe goes on to say
"What an idiotic comment, billclausen. Did you happen to notice that for thousands of years we did not nave 7 billion people running around the planet?"
"We did not *nave* 7 billion people..." (?)
Maybe I'm wrong, but I think you meant to say "have", unless you are referring to the nave of a church.
When you insult people and pass judgement on them, you end up doing the same things you put them down for yourself. Maybe *you* need to go down to the central library, or any of the libraries, and sign up for a writing comprehension course.
Have a nice day.
billclausen (anonymous profile)
December 12, 2011 at 3:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I wish the commenters would be more civil.
martha (Martha Sadler)
December 12, 2011 at 11:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Super interesting article. Thanks again for writing something insightful as well as fact based for a general audience.
mobius (anonymous profile)
December 12, 2011 at 1:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Martha, unfortunately, I think some chronic EDHATters are spilling over onto the Indy site. I've never seen such a bunch of wankers, at least not since the Daily Sound changed from direct comments to Facebook comments. I've come to call them "EDHATErs."
We'd be up to our ears in nukes and coal-fired plants if not for the efficiency mandates (oh no! the heavy hand of -shudder- government!) that started in the '70s, and we're in for a new round of fossil-fueled plants unless mandated and other purely innovative efficiencies continue to improve, esp. in illumination, electric motors of all kinds (e.g. refrigeration and all sorts of industrial and consumer applications), and other electronic devices. Coupled with this, let millions of rooftop solar and small-scale wind installations grow, and let billions of individual population control decisions bloom.
GregMohr (anonymous profile)
December 12, 2011 at 2:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Very well thought out & researched article, the author shows more than knowledge on the matter, very logical. It all comes down to this statement:
"it seems, based on CAISO’s recent analysis, that California may indeed be able to phase out its nuclear power plants without great detriment to the state. But additional study is required, involving not only the ability to serve the electricity needs of Californians, but also the stranded costs resulting from such a phase out."
That statement is the John 3:16 of this article. W/ that said, I would hope that if such a study is done then it should be w/ no bias or agenda from pro & anti nuke proponents. This will be the hard part. Just the data please!
The SB area has cubic tons of natural gas deposits that can be used for energy consumption in the form of methane (CH4) & hydrogen sulfide (H2S).
The only sticky point is the hazards involved w/ either gas:
CH4
flashpoint (fp) = -188C
boling point (bp) = -162C
explosion limit (el) = 5%-16%
hazardous materials (HMIS) rating of health (H) = 1, flammability (F) = 4 & reactivity (R) = 0.
H2S
fp = -82C
bp = -60C
el = 4.3%-46%
HMIS: H = 4, F = 4, R = 0.
In either case they're both nasty (H2S having the high toxicity), but they do burn as fuels quite efficiently.
So efficient in fact that oil companies use those gases to power equipment on the rigs or refineries due to their abundance & properties.
The hard part is convincing the Luddite safety nazis to allow the use of these compounds for fuel purposes, but because of their properties & ratings (which can be controlled w/ the proper engineering controls & measures) that may prove to be a long, drawn out battle.
Great article & as for the uncivil comments, nice to see SuzIe back on here, correcting everyone's format, grammar & spelling the way a grumpy old school marm should.
Yo Suz, nxt time u shuld chk out da art. b4 goin' off & trippin' lke u do :) henry
hank (anonymous profile)
December 12, 2011 at 4:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)
@Martha
there are a large number of people who got on here not just to state a position, present a fact or idea but literally bully people, slander them, and all around try to confuse the original topic for whatever their reason may be but sometimes it'
s as if they're being paid by an outside party to drown out any dissent/opposing views and experiences; or dialogue for that matter, to the point of harassment.
Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
December 12, 2011 at 5:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)
"CH4
flashpoint (fp) = -188C
boling point (bp) = -162C
explosion limit (el) = 5%-16%
hazardous materials (HMIS) rating of health (H) = 1, flammability (F) = 4 & reactivity (R) = 0.
H2S
fp = -82C
bp = -60C
el = 4.3%-46%
HMIS: H = 4, F = 4, R = 0."
Ditto!
billclausen (anonymous profile)
December 12, 2011 at 9:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)
KenV: "it's as if they're being paid by an outside party to drown out any dissent/opposing views and experiences."
So Ken, who's paying you? Let me know because in the words of Don Fanucci (The Black Hand, GodfatherII), "I just want to wet my beak." :) henry
hank (anonymous profile)
December 12, 2011 at 10:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Normal person + anonymity + audience = jerk. :)
Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
December 13, 2011 at 12:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)
KenV: "Normal person + anonymity + audience = jerk."
Thank you for sharing your successful business model w/ us Ken, you are an inspiration :) henry
hank (anonymous profile)
December 13, 2011 at 12:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Aint nobody round here could right as goode as me...cause im the best riter theyre is. so all you folks out their co-RECTin everbody wyll jest have two take there plase in lyne behynd mee.
Themk Yew. for yer grate arrtickle.
GluteousMaximus (anonymous profile)
December 13, 2011 at 10:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Glute, ya sed it all bedder then me. HAHAHA! :) henry
hank (anonymous profile)
December 13, 2011 at 10:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)
BTW I hope the design engineers for the solar projects at california valley took into account the occasional very high wind events that occur on the carrizo plain. They had an example recently of wind there that could be destructive to large flat glass panels that move to follow the sun.
Lets hope that was taken into account. Arco had a solar plant in that area some time ago,right where First solar,recently bought by Berkshire Hathaway is putting their newly funded plant. I wonder why Arco took took their plant out?
GluteousMaximus (anonymous profile)
December 13, 2011 at 1:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Some other dule we drie. Ye must think of yer bairns and grandchildren when ye think of the future.
Nuclear power hae killed at many, we must stop this.
billclausen (anonymous profile)
December 14, 2011 at 1:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)