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GOP Contenders Must Decide If Tea Party Primary Support Will Play in General Election
Thursday, September 15, 2011
Representative Ron Paul was asked during this week’s Republican presidential debate how his fierce opposition to publicly financed medical care would affect an uninsured, 30-year-old man plunged into a coma by sudden illness or accident.
“But congressman, are you saying society should just let him die?” moderator Wolf Blitzer asked.
As Paul embarked on a lengthy answer, several loud voices rang out from the crowd watching the event, offering a clearer and simpler response:
“Yes,” let him die, they hollered. “Yes!”
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The appalling incident was memorable, partly because it summed up the every-individual-for-himself tone and spirit of the right-wing Tea Party, the most vocal, energized, and engaged faction of the GOP. As a political matter, it also illustrated a stark dilemma facing leading Republican contenders: how to win enough support from the crucial, red-meat Republican bloc to secure the party’s nomination without turning off the independent and crossover voters, who will decide the general election.
The double bind is not a problem for Paul, the iconoclastic Texas libertarian whose candidacy is a sideshow, but it represents a big challenge for Texas Governor Rick Perry and former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney, the top two candidates, whose rivalry now shapes the Republican race.
In Monday night’s Tea Party debate, the second of five televised events within six weeks in which all eight Republican wannabes will face each other, Perry and Romney took decidedly different approaches. Simply put, Perry played to the demonstrative grassroots partisans in the Florida debate hall; Romney aimed his presentation at the larger and more diverse audience watching the event on TV.
Both in style and in substance, the two approaches reflect broader divisions within the GOP about ideology and the best strategy for defeating President Barack Obama next November.
Perry, since his recent, meteoric entry into the race, has quickly emerged as a Tea Party favorite: A full-throated advocate of their cut-taxes, slash-spending agenda, he also is a vocal social conservative on issues like gay marriage and strikes a fiery, combative, shoot-from-the-hip campaign stance. Romney, whose early lead in polls was quickly overtaken by Perry, also embraces Tea Party positions on taxes and spending; however, his sharp focus on fixing the economy eschews hot-button cultural issues, and his style is far more low-key.
Against all expectation in a Republican campaign, the sharpest contrast between them during the first two debates has flared over Social Security. With bravado and hot rhetoric, Perry has bashed the 70-year-old government pension system as “fraudulent,” a “Ponzi scheme” that steals money from younger workers for retirees; Romney pounced on the comments, supporting some reforms to Social Security, but portraying Perry as an extremist who is unelectable against Obama.
As a practical matter, the intense exchange over Social Security is disproportionate to problems with the system. Far from insolvent, it is fully funded until 2037; a projected shortfall, driven by retirements among the massive baby boom generation, could be addressed through a number of reforms that have been identified, from adjusting benefits based on overall income to raising the retirement age.
Far more than a fight over actuarial tables, however, the Social Security battle is a placeholder for a far more fundamental conflict about exactly what the Republican Party should stand for. While Romney supports tinkering with the system, Perry goes much further.
In Fed Up! — his campaign manifesto — the Texas governor described Social Security this way:
“A crumbling monument to the failure of the New Deal, in stark contrast to the mythical notion of salvation to which it has wrongly been attached for too long, all at the expense of respect for the Constitution and limited government.”
In an interview about his book, he added this question: “Why is the federal government even in the pension program or the health-care-delivery program? Let the states do it.”
The idea that the next president should work to dismantle the federal program underpinning a social safety net built in the decades since the New Deal is a decidedly radical notion, bespeaking a level of fundamental change in the role of government that many in the Tea Party support.
In selecting a nominee, a broader range of Republicans will be deciding whether they think that mainstream voters agree.
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Jerry Roberts is manipulating facts with his childish reporting. Poor reporting should not be tolerated and I hope that all reading this will go watch the exchange for themselves. Dr. Paul answered the question with a simple "No" after promoting personal responsibility and freedom. Here is the exchange
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Wolf Blitzer posed a hypothetical to Paul, who is also a physician.
“A healthy, 30-year-old young man has a good job, makes a good living, but decides: You know what? I'm not going to spend 200 or 300 dollars a month for health insurance, because I'm healthy; I don't need it,” Blitzer said. “But you know, something terrible happens; all of a sudden, he needs it. Who's going to pay for it, if he goes into a coma, for example? Who pays for that?
“In a society that you accept welfarism and socialism, he expects the government to take care of him,” Paul replied.
“What he should do is whatever he wants to do, and assume responsibility for himself,” Paul said. ”My advice to him would have a major medical policy, but not before —"
“But he doesn't have that,” Blitzer said. “He doesn't have it and he's — and he needs — he needs intensive care for six months. Who pays?”
“That's what freedom is all about: taking your own risks.,” Paul said
“But congressman, are you saying that society should just let him die,” Blitzer asked.
"No... I practiced medicine before we had Medicaid, in the early 1960s when I got out of medical school,” Paul said. “I practiced at Santa Rosa Hospital in San Antonio. And the churches took care of them. We never turned anybody away from the hospitals. And we've given up on this whole concept that we might take care of ourselves and assume responsibility for ourselves, our neighbors, our friends; our churches would do it. This whole idea — that's the reason the cost is so high. The cost is so high because we dump it on the government. It becomes a bureaucracy. It becomes special interests. It kowtows to the insurance companies, then the drug companies.”
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Has Mr. Jerry Roberts heard of the Hippocratic Oath? Has Mr. Roberts Reviewed U.S. Law that requires the hospital to treat the sick, regardless of ability to pay?
For those of you that take his words or anyone in the media for that matter as fact, ignorance is bliss I guess.
RationalThought (anonymous profile)
September 15, 2011 at 8:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)
RationalThought; You must be in some type of bubble. Do you even have a TV or LCD or access to the internet video. Apologizing for republicans, the tea party and their affiliates is despicable.
BTW the Hippocratic Oath is for Doctors; Doctors who are NOT willing to let people die. And the law you speak of is a very inefficient way to treat the sick.
Ignorance is bliss indeed.
DonMcDermott (anonymous profile)
September 16, 2011 at 8:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)
How exactly is a consistent third place polling a sideshow? McCain was also polling in third at this phase of the last cycle and we all know how that turned out.
I would counter that you are the sideshow, junior.
Hank_Rearden (anonymous profile)
September 16, 2011 at 9:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)
How come so many of these fanatical and God-fearing Tea Party and nouveau-Republican types object so vehemently to evolution, yet call "survival of the fittest" and LibertaRandian "every man for himself" philosophies their ideal models for a society? Collectively, today's right has merged into the Regressive Party.
anemonefish (anonymous profile)
September 16, 2011 at 11:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I saw all I needed to when the supposedly "pro-life" crowd cheered for the number of executions in Texas and cheered again when their candidates said someone without insurance should be left to die.
Num1UofAn (anonymous profile)
September 16, 2011 at 6:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)
The best thing that could happen to Barack Obama is for a Rick Perry or Michele Bachman to be nominated for the Republican candidate. Popular with the Tea party? Yes. Electable. No. Pathetic? Oh, yeah!
fredb93117 (anonymous profile)
September 16, 2011 at 7:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Thank you for this thoughtful column, Jerry. When you write, "As a practical matter, the intense exchange over Social Security is disproportionate to problems with the system. Far from insolvent, it is fully funded until 2037" you are disabusing many Americans who continue to buy Republican nonsense that "entitlements" are wrecking our budget. Yes, they ARE a problem, but Social Security is not a major issue. If Soc Security was so woefully underfunded, why was Bush Jr. so hot to get his hands on the funds in it early in 2001?
Don McDermott is correct that [ir-]RationalThought is in a very weird bubble -- doesn't he know how churches and church attendance are falling? When he quotes Ron Paul saying "our churches would do it" I hope all readers get a big laugh at this fatuous blarney. Grow up and face reality.
DrDan (anonymous profile)
September 17, 2011 at 1:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I respect Jerry Roberts, but he is road kill wrong to consider Ron Paul's campaign a "sideshow"
Ron Paul consistently places in the top three in major Republican Primary polls.
Ron Paul is number two in fundraising and number one for individual donations
Ron Paul has more military donations than all other GOP candidates combined, as well as President Obama.
Ron Paul is the only candidate to accurately predict the housing bubble, economic crises and thedevaluation of the dollar.
e_male (anonymous profile)
September 21, 2011 at 12:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)
As always, good context and analysis from Roberts.
Personally, I would have thought that the more moderate conservatives that Romney appears to be courting would be the better election strategy target. This is based on the premise that there are large numbers of older conservatives out there who will not be sympathetic to Perry's views on SS. Also, younger conservatives who have felt the pain of this economy will probably put aside any ideological notions and be less receptive to the "every man for him/her self" ideals of the Tea Party and candidates like Paul and Perry. That younger demographic may come to realize the majority of Americans of all political stripes have more in common with each other than the top 1% - 5% who hold all the wealth and power in this country and tend towards conservative ideals.
Oh to be a demographer!
EastBeach (anonymous profile)
September 21, 2011 at 5:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)